I'm relatively new to this game, and weapons/upgrading in general, but I was wondering which of these weapons would be more suitable for my character. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. All rights reserved. It depends on your target SL. Zweihander or Man-Serpent Sword on 40 str, str/end build, pve. The Great Demon Machete has a similar moveset to the Zwei but has higher requrements and better scaling. Man-Serpent greatsword is a Weapon in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered. Greatswords deal 52 poise damage two-handed but are not capable of stun-locks at all; however, they can stun-lock when used one-handed. mudfan312 8 years ago #1. The Man-serpent Greatsword is a greatsword in Dark Souls. So, the argument of Zwei's sweeping attacks vs Greatsword's strikes isn't 100% valid. Ultra greatswords deal 75 poise damage two-handed and are usually capable of a stun-lock for 2-3 hits at most. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I one hand it and I love it, stun locks basically every enemy you can imagine, even a large amount of the bosses. The Greatsword is more versatile due to its moveset, but less practical due to its shorter range and weight. Which of the two is better in all available upgrades? It doesn't really shine at SL120. "This single-bladed blood-stained greatsword is the choice weapon of the slithering serpent men of Sen's Fortress." Depends on which ever move set you like more, really. And when you make a STR build, you find out most STR weapons of this game are too damn slow. But the msgs has (virtually)perfect str scaling, speed, and moveset, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the darksoulsbuilds community, Press J to jump to the feed. But Zwei is lighter and is accessible early in the game. The zwei is way too slow to be usable and basically the only advantages it has over the man serpents is reach and that it can be obtained earlier, and c dex scaling if you're a quality build. Which weapon would you recommend and why? That is the question. Or may be you can suggest something else? Or may be you can suggest something else? The Man-Serpent Greatsword scales better on Strength. It is much more versatile than the Man Serpent Greatsword, and the AR of the Large Club is significantly higher than that of the Man Serpent Greatsword. Man serpent great sword BKS Ultra-Great Swords Demon Great Machete BKGS Imo both the claymore (GS) and the Zweihander (UGS) are better options, even the greatsword is good but these weapons require both Str/Dex to deal full damage. The Zweihander is an ultra greatsword while the Man-Serpent Greatsword is a greatsword. What upgrades to pick? Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. although, I like the look of Zwei, MSGS scales better. Hello everyone. The one-handed moveset of the Greatsword, however, is the same sweeping animation of the Zweihander. What upgrades to pick? "An ordinary human will have great difficulty swinging this heavy beast effectively." Barbarians in Blighttown occasionally drop the Large Club. mudfan312 8 years ago #1. The zweihander is OK at 120 if you can handle the cool down period and slowness. The Great Sword of Artorias scales based on numerous attributes. The Chaos Fire takes away stat scaling though, but it scales based on your soft humanity (large number in upper left corner). Man-Serpent Greatsword +15 or Lightning MSGS. Like, REALLY annoying to kill some bosses with and/or PvP. If you like greatswords then I find the Greatsword of Artorias (cursed) to be pretty damn awesome. I have 30 strength, and I am debating which one to upgrade to its full capacity. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Gallery Uncommonly dropped by the Serpent Soldiers which populate Sen's Fortress and the prison portion of The Duke's Archives. I would like hand weapon with 1 hand. I am using a heavy weight class focusing mostly on a balance between Endurance and Strength. Comparing the Zweihander and the Greatsword I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). User Info: TheBates. Why? Comparing the Zweihander and the Greatsword I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). How to Get / Where to Find the Man-Serpent Greatsword . btw i am only a noob so if you have better ideas for what i should use i am up to the giant blacksmith in anor londo. TheBates 7 years ago #1. claymore vs. man-serpent greatsword; User Info: dark_lung. Black Knight Sword vs Man-Serpent Greatsword; User Info: mudfan312. In other words, they have different movesets. Greatswords deal 52 poise damage two-handed but are not capable of stun-locks at all; however, they can stun-lock when used one-handed. Lightning or Normal? Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America), http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Stone+Greatsword, http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Demon+Great+Machete, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UkwwszN-TQ. My Str is 34 however because I use the Greatshield of Artorias (which I love deeply). so you recommend man serpent great sword over the zweihander? I'd recommend trying out the weapons and picking the one whose moveset you like more. Hello everyone. So MSG would be the fastest STR weapon that has a … I'm relatively new to this game, and weapons/upgrading in general, but I was wondering which of these weapons would be more suitable for my character. Then what upgrade to do on Zwei? I personally use the Chaos Zweihander +5 on my Tank build. I have 30 strength, and I am debating which one to upgrade to its full capacity. I would like hand weapon with 1 hand. in the long run, does the claymore outdmg the man-serpents @ higher lvls or is it just easier to get? dark_lung 8 years ago #1. i'm looking at the stats: claymore 15 is 257 base C str and C dex MS greatsword is 275 base A str I find more people talking about using the claymore and probably 1 or 2 using the man-serpent one. © Valve Corporation. I'm in Anor Londo and I'm swithering over whether I should make my MSGS+10 a Lightning sword, or whether I should wait until I have the Very Large Ember and make it +15. The Zweihander is an ultra greatsword while the Man-Serpent Greatsword is a greatsword. Cause it scales well with STR. It's also slower than the zweihander, I guess it does not matter that much, but still. Some say MSGS also got better moveset. In other words, they have different movesets. Zweihander ultimately have higher base damage once you upgrade it to normal +15 than Man-serpent,but it swings quite slow compare to the latter.